Did not want to step all over Bill's thread, as his has its own following. I have been going to class to become a Customer Service Rep for a Fortune 250 Company. It is a large class with 20 students, so we have been rather tight in more ways than one. One of my fellow students is realtor, getting out of the business and looking for a more stable life and benefits. We talk quite a bit at our one hour lunch and I adore her insight into so many things. We talk about local eateries, fun places to go, and of course, families, Most recently we talked about real estate and what areas did she sell and concentrate on. Beverly said it was SCW, Surprise, El Mirage, and sometimes, Sun City. Why sometimes "Sun City" I asked, and she told me why she steers away from our community. The first being the cost of the PIF. She thought the last increase was too much and not warranted, especially for the amenities, or lack there of, we have. Lack of amenities? No real incentive to have business move in to help with the local economy, no real open meeting that allow for member involvement, no urgency to find any kind of public transportation, and the costs associated to move into Sun City far exceeded the value. I didn't know whether to cry or walk away. I stayed, because everything she said was true. Then the zinger which she knew and I didn't; the Friday board email meetings which occur every weekend to discuss and vote on for the following meeting. It is also where policy is decided, and when most potential members find out they will be excluded from the process , they leave the area and look elsewhere. Is this a one sided conversation, you bet. Is loyalty towards SCW, it surely is, but what she said resonated in such a way, it hurt my heart and made me angry. These are the very truths which have been stated time and time again, to deaf ears. How come a realtor knows about super secret meeting by the board, and we don't. So, that means the old behind closed doors now means electronic media. All of the "open" meetings we were promised are, one of my favorite words, are a "sham". The meeting can now be seen by the membership, but there are no open meetings. The need for technology is dire, the need for a performing arts location, extreme, and the need for true open meetings as described in Title 33 should be demanded. Yes, we still talk, about work, the tests, the sit alongs, but I am not eager to talk about Sun City anymore. Who knows what else I will find out about my community which will break my heart even more. I am glad she told me what she did, it gave me a perspective of how others outside of SC view us, and it is not very favorable.