Getting rid of fruit trees in Sun City

Discussion in 'Sun City General Discussions' started by Emily Litella, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. Emily Litella

    Emily Litella Active Member

    We have five, four orange and one lemon.

    I'd like to plant in their place native desert plants that use less water, bloom at different times, and support native wildlife.

    Can anyone recommend a fruit tree removal company?

    Should I keep the lemon tree?
     
  2. Cynthia

    Cynthia Active Member

    I would keep the lemon and one orange unless you don't like oranges. You can always remove later. I had a big grapefruit tree removed because it died when my landscape system failed in hot weather and I didn't know it. It had huge (I mean huge) deep roots and not easy to remove. I wouldn't recommend the people who removed mine though. Just giving my 2 cents about the citrus

    I loved that old tree and it provided great shade, didn't care as much about the fruit. Citrus smells so amazing when it flowers...few flowers smell that good. Citrus also attracts a beautiful yellow butterfly, the giant swallowtail, because it it's the host plant. It's the largest butterfly in the US. I worry about them in SC as people remove citrus because I'm as much a butterfly as I am bird lover. Such a beautiful big yellow butterfly. I've seen them in SC.

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  3. BPearson

    BPearson Active Member

    We have one simple philosophy...if it grows, it goes.
     
  4. Cynthia

    Cynthia Active Member

    I've heard that ridiculous quote before. If everyone thought that way we'd all die. Then you keep all the CO2 that trees absorb and make the air healthy. And don't ever look at a bird. Imagine Sun City with zero trees. Even the desert has trees. There's nothing simple about your philosophy.
     
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  5. BPearson

    BPearson Active Member

    Nope, only ridiculous in your world of evergreen. And that goodness, i don't belittle you for it. Though i am sick of picking, sweeping and blowing all those damn bougainvillea flowers out of my driveway and backyard.

    Oh well, too each their own. Dang, i thought liberals were more tolerant.
     
  6. Mullet

    Mullet New Member

    If you've got any Arizona sweet oranges, keep a tree. Best orange juice I've ever had. Our condo association got rid of ours. I'm bummed. For the record, we've gone to a desert landscape in our front courtyard. Nothing in our front or rear courtyards needs irrigation.
     
  7. Cynthia

    Cynthia Active Member

    I never said you can’t remove some, especially if they produce excessive litter. But to remove all trees and plants destroys the homes of beneficial insects, birds, and the oxygen CO2 exchange. Trees are not just for beauty. All the concrete we lay in cities increases the heat. We have to do these things to live but we need to help balance it with trees and plants. Not just for beauty.

    I don't live life as a liberal. i look at each thing and make a decision. But I do find it odd you can't take a rant BP. You do your share of ranting too.
     
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  8. BruceW

    BruceW Member

    OK, play nice kids. ;)
    There is a lot to be said for a landscape of native plants.
    IMHO growing citrus in a a desert isn't logical, takes a lot of water I imagine.
    Who am I to talk though, I would love to have a mandarin in my back yard.

    Bill can remove all his growing things, the rest of us will make up for it. :lemo:
     
  9. Cynthia

    Cynthia Active Member

    Growing any food in the desert might not sound logical, but we eat. Native plants are best for general purposes. An orchard no, but having one or two citrus is a good thing if you eat them. And they don't drop many leaves so not messy either.

    If you do decide to keep one orange tree, Emily, I suggest waiting until the fruit matures and tasting it first before you remove them. Some taste better than others.
     
  10. Emily Litella

    Emily Litella Active Member

    Really good points everyone. I forgot about the wonderful smell earlier in the year. That was heavenly.

    The hummers have claimed one of the trees as their feeder lookout. And there are more butterflies out this way.

    I think we'll have to keep them and make the decision in the spring based on taste and smell, as was suggested. Thinking of keeping an orange and the lemon.

    Mick, I remember your courtyard was spectacular and I envied the two car garages. But it sounds like your condo board is a smart one and really proactive. Wish it could have been that way with ours.
     
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  11. BPearson

    BPearson Active Member

    Hey Mick, great to see you back among the living. I love rants C, it's what keeps us going, don't ya think? Anyway, we have what i would argue the largest saguaro cactus in all of Sun City in our back yard. Maybe 30 feet tall and 40 arms with another 20 that have fallen or been cut off (to stop the lean). In the front we have a barrel cactus and beautiful Mediterranean Palm tree that are indigenous to the desert with no water drips. Oh yeah, we have some metal plants that are water free as well.

    Here's the point, this is the desert and water is at a premium...and boy are we about to find out. If the law suit by SCHOA is lost on the consolidation of cap water, the consolidation of ground water will be crushing. It's already in the works and from some paperwork from the last SCHOA board meeting the consolidation shows the impact on the 11 districts...Sun City is a 115.6% increase. Yikes.

    Any attached condo association in Sun City that hasn't switched to desert landscaping at the very least need begin talking about it. Those that have bubblers or drip systems, make sure they are working right and as you consider adding greenery, think about the amount of water they will need.

    By the way, many of the cactus in the area have spectacular flowers on them a couple of times a year.
     
  12. Cynthia

    Cynthia Active Member

    Well the cactus grow so why don't they go?
     
  13. Emily Litella

    Emily Litella Active Member

    I was back in my old community yesterday and noted how GREEN the grass was on both sides of the courtyard on the side streets. Newly reseeded and beautiful. They're gonna pay big bucks for it sooner than later, and of course, I was the lone voice for change. Mostly all of the other associations are starting to get rid of the grass or have done it already. The argument that "I might not be here in five years" is just plain selfish and wasteful. I found that very often the folks who make this argument are the ones with the most money. The water rates are going to skyrocket here for those with grass.
     
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  14. Emily Litella

    Emily Litella Active Member

    Big Saguaro cactus - very beautiful. But don't you worry it could come down in a monsoon storm on the house, or is it located far enough away.

    A couple of years back one came down in one of the condo owners courtyards and took out the block wall and part of the roof.
     
  15. BPearson

    BPearson Active Member

    I do, but if it falls, it's leaning away from the house.

    Simple answer on the cactus and palm trees...no water needed.
     
  16. Emily Litella

    Emily Litella Active Member

    Ok. On the pineapple palms, does everyone trim their trees the same way here?

    I could find no trees that looked like ours and then I realized because all the palms were trimmed from bottom to center. Is this for rat control?
     
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  17. Cynthia

    Cynthia Active Member

    I have 3 palms and 2 fruit trees that need water. Since I don't live there I can tell what it costs me. I pay $10 a month for water for them. Even if it does double it’s worth $20 a month for me.

    Sorry, I have to laugh a bit though BP. Your complaint is the cost of water and yet you say you’re putting in a pool.*
     
  18. Emily Litella

    Emily Litella Active Member

    Yes. $10 - 20 a month is ok.

    DH has said that would like a pool. Guess who would be taking care of it? Forget it. There are seven pools here in the rec centers.
     
  19. aggie

    aggie Member

    We have kept only a tangelo tree which is our favorite. There are so many friends/neighbors that have trees that we're never lacking in offers of citrus. I do have a variety of flowering plants/hibiscus in pots which are easy to care for on the patio.

    We did have a HUGE saguaro cactus that started a lean toward the house and had it removed. The removal company paid us and it is now replanted along the new section of the 303 south of Grand Avenue.
     
  20. Emily Litella

    Emily Litella Active Member

    Interesting aggie, I didn't realize you could be paid to have your Saguaro removed. I actually passed a couple of properties by because of huge Saguaros close to the house that I thought would cost a lot to remove.

    We do need some trees to be trimmed before the spring. Luckily, I got a couple of great recommendations from a friend via word of mouth, which is the way I will get my contractor referrals from now on.
     

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