Mountain View -A Devil's Advocate

Discussion in 'Sun City General Discussions' started by FYI, Apr 1, 2022.

  1. FYI

    FYI Well-Known Member

    Let's play devil's advocate!

    How many people would it really piss-off if the Mountain View rebuild ended up only being just a theater with perhaps 2 sport pools and some other outdoor sport venues?

    A couple of important points:

    1. Mountain View has no indoor type Clubs so nobody or club would be displaced.
    2. Fairway is less than 1 mile away with all the fitness equipment, pools and walking track you would probably need.
    3. Since Sun City has only a finite number of rooftops, the population is pretty much a fixed number. Did we really need to purchase and build the rec center at Grand and increase the number of recreation centers which also increased the RCSC's operational and maintenance expenses?
    4. Listening to the basketball players during board meeting comments, although several Members want a gymnasium, it seems like they only find enough players when they go play in Peoria with others who don't necessarily live in Sun City!

    Can somebody explain to me why we need another multi-million dollar recreation facility with every bell and whistle when there's one less than a mile away?
     
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  2. OneDayAtATime

    OneDayAtATime Well-Known Member

    By Bill Pearson

    Point well made FYI and one they appear to be ignoring. I watched the meeting in it's entirety and thought there were lots of good comments for and against. The theater has never been the issue, the gym was an add-on at best. It would seem to me there is data out there and we should be trying to get our hands on it. I'm fine with a multi-purpose building, as long as we know it will get used a lot. Here's the hard data; roughly 1/3rd of the housing is in phase 1, 9000 rooftops. There are 4 rec centers in phase 1 with the addition of the Grand Ave Center. There are roughly 18,000 homes in phase 2 and 3, that represents the other 2/3rds. We also have 4 centers in phase 2 and 3, all-be-it much larger.


    Like i said, i am less concerned about it being built and way more concerned by the cost. Did anyone else cringe when the board president announced they use "BOGUS" numbers? Are you freaking kidding me? She uttered those very words as we were talking about the 27 million dollars slated for phase 1 and 2 at Mountainview. Then the building guy said those numbers should be in the ballpark. Stop and think about this; the maintenance building (shed) at Lakes East/West came in at 3 million dollars (not counting the nearly million dollar site prep). Now translate that to the massive complex at Mountainview and tell me if that math works out in your head (and that is after nearly a year of stifling inflation). Hell, my best guess on MV is the "bogus" terminology is spot on. Like i said, is there any number that makes people go, wow way too much?


    And to be clear after watching, someone best explain to Bill Cook, he works for the board. He's not their boss. Any takers on the purchase of the exercise equipment is voting down the next go-around? What the hell, 100k here and 100k there and the next thing you know you've blown through 200k, not 11 or 12 million dollars. This BS that the carry forward is for"rainy days" should be shoved where the sun doesn't shine. And, if that was/is the case, when it comes to our IT, we've just witnessed the hundred year flood.


    I watch these meetings and ask myself, how did we get here? They are worried about a 100k trial on exercise equipment but no one said a word about subsidizing golf to the tune of 25 million dollars over the last 12 years. Think about that for a minute or two,
     
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