Just read my RCSC email which, in a short version says, "Everything is closed except GOLF." And then closes with a cheerful Have a great Sun City AZ Week! I thought the ending was a bit over the top.
Just an update on how to use electronic digital kiosks without touching the germ and virus prone screen and keyboard. You can use these devices without touching them at all - just use a ipad/iphone stylus to interact with the screen. Works great. Went to Atm to test this and I never had to touch the ATM at all other than to extract my cash. One more little no no. Do not take your change from the change cup at the supermarket. It's just another germ/virus trap that you should avoid. Solution - either ask the cashier to put the change in the donation box, or bring plenty of change with you when you shop the empty shelves. The most you can lose is 99 cents as opposed to your life. Sound like a little over kill? I don't think so. The more exposure you have to the public and devices that are not disinfected, the more exposure you have. Stay vigilant and safe out there.
The last shop I did I tried the Instacart service -- ordered on-line and paid on-line, got an appointment to pick up items two days later -- they brought groceries out and put in my trunk. The upside was I didn't have to deal with distancing, people's coughing, sneezing, etc., so it reduced my on-site risks, particularly checkout, money, etc. The downside is I didn't get to select which tomato, banana, cucumber I got ( but everything I got was ok) -- and one thing I ordered had run out of stock prior to my order being picked off the shelves. Sanitizing issues when I got home were essentially no different than if I had shopped myself. These shouldn't be overlooked anytime you shop for anything these days -- whether it's food, hardware, whatever. You have to assume the product you got was contaminated in the store, it in turn contaminated the bag it was put in, and the bag contaminated you/your car in spots it touched, etc. It's all manageable -- you can wipe down you car door handles, steering wheel keys, etc with sanitizer as needed, and most purchases can be wiped with sanitizer or left to sit for several says outside to give the virus time to die. Perishables and frozen goods, of course, can't wait to be refrigerated/stored. This video shows you how to deal with putting away groceries.
I've been going through my selection of post- apocalypse movies (I have about 20) just to get a few ideas for . . . ........ you know.
Wikipedia has a category, “Deaths from coronavirus” or something, broken down by country. It only list people who have wikipedia articles about them so it is a sort of random sample of the population, sort of not. China has 10, France 14, Italy 14, Iran 12, the UK 6 and the USA 18. More food for thought.
Governor Ducey just issued a statewide "Stay at Home" directive for all except essential businesses and operations. See following: https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2020/03/30/ducey-issues-order-to-stay-at-home/ This means https://ktar.com/story/3036957/arizona-gov-doug-ducey-issues-statewide-stay-at-home-order/ Or in plain english: Read the fine print.
If you are stopped by the police, just tell them you are going golfing or to the hairdresser. Ludicrous.
To quote the new Executive Order: Paragraph 4; Essential Activities include "d. Engaging in outdoor exercise activities, such as walking,hiking, running, biking or golfing, but only if appropriate physical distancing practices are used." And Paragraph 2e. No person shall be required to provide documentation or proof of their activities to justify their actions under this order. Tom McClain
My point was simple Tom, both golf and hairdresser's are included in "essential services." Does that not seem ludicrous to you? Better yet Tom; now that he has passed this edict, what will be different from 4 pm tomorrow when the clock strikes 5:01 pm when it is in effect?
Nope. Unless you don't believe people will protect themselves. But, where does Ducey say hairdressers are essential services? There should be no change in policy at all. He only did this because several Arizona mayors did not want to do it for their own municipalities as they did not want to be blamed for it and now can blame him.
If you look at the list of essential services, i have no idea who is excluded. That said, here is the provision regarding barber shops, salons: Professional and personal services: Professional services, such as legal services, accounting services, insurance services, personal hygiene services (including barber shops and salons) with additional sanitization precautions as recommended for businesses by the Arizona Department of Health Services and real estate services (including appraisal and title services). Here is the full list. I just don't know what we gain given almost everyone is considered essential. BTW, i would hope all of us would use common sense and do what we can to try and get our arms and head around what is going on. Sadly that isn't the case.
Gov Dufus published a list last week which included hair salons and barber shops as essential businesses. Totally unacceptable - but he is following Trumpty Dumpty's lead in trying to keep businesses going. The question in my mind is what is more important - your business or your life? Yes, small businesses will be hurt, but what good is your small business if your are dead? As far as I'm concerned, Gov Dufus should have shut the state down over a week ago. How many deaths may be attributed to him because he did not swiftly enough. Just an opinion.
SCR, if you don’t believe being out of work or losing your business can be deadly to your health and your life then you have forgot the market crash of the 20s and the great depression from the 20s until World War II started. I know that over thousands of people fellow Americans committed suicide or died out of just plain giving up. Your attitude about people having a job and working in a vibrant and optimistic economy and nation, stinks!!!
Many local mayors and officials are angry because the Governor's list was too broad. Not all of us have cushy government retirement pensions that make salons & golfing a necessity.
What is surprising to me is not that someone would want to keep their salon open but that someone would visit it. Perhaps these are the folks who listened and still listen to Rush "it's no worse than the common cold" Limbaugh? So . . . . . . . . . .......... an etiquette question. In the grocery store yesterday I was behind a customer who was picking packages up, reading them, whatever, and then putting them back. Did it several times in the baked goods section. Is it okay to remind that person that we are no longer doing that? Or in a open carry state, is that likely to get one shot?
It seems we are all responsible for our own safety. You have to assume all items in the store have been touched by at least a few people along the supply chain. I personally wouldn't say anything to that person. All packaging should be sanitized once you bring it into(or even before) your home. I wouldn't have any problem asking someone to keep their distance from my personal space in a checkout line, ATM or other space confined situation. Open carry lets you know there is a danger....it's the concealed carry for anyone in AZ without needing a permit that is more dangerous. Assume anyone may have a short fuse.
This is where the discussion always becomes more interesting. What would your solution be Tom? Sending people back to work or trying to get ahead of the curve on the spread?
This is the difference between those that love Freedom and Self-Reliance and those that believe Americans are bunch of sheep that need to be lead by the nose. I am of the former and I believe that Americans will come up with a solution to this mess and we will marvel at the wisdom of the answer. I would never tell Americans that they have to go back to work. And getting ahead of the curve on getting them sick is diabolical and UnAmerican. We as Americans will put our brains to the task and come up with the solution to afford the rest of us the opportunity to go back to work and enjoy life. So do I have a solution at the moment? No, I don't, but I believe there are those that do have the solution and it will come sooner rather than later. Don't think so, well Abbott Labs just came up with a Wuhan Chinese Covid-19 self test that works in 5 minutes. Not like the original that took 3 to 5 days. And it wasn't the government that found the answer. So far, there have been new solutions to many of the initial problems that the nation had to handle with Wuhan Chinese Covid-19 such the ventilators, Hydroxy-Cholorquine with Z-Max, and first trials on the vaccine is 6 months ahead of schedule via private lab, not the government. And private enterprise (Newport News and BAE Systems and General Dynamics at the request of the President) got both hospital ships to New York and LA in 7 days instead of 4 weeks. Bottom-line, just like WWII, give private enterprise the green light and America can do anything.
Given what you just wrote Tom, it seems to me you agree on maintaining the need for "social distancing," and trying to flatten the curve at whatever cost (my words, not yours). we will get through this, the real question would be in two parts to me: 1). Loss of human life and suffering and then secondarily, the impact from an economic standpoint. I know both are of concern, but until and unless we find the vaccines and stop the contagion we will never get people back to work. Seems to me we are in agreement.
Social distancing has gained us time, but testing in 5 minutes for all of us coupled with therapeutics such as hydroxy chloroquine with Z-Max will get us back to work. Americans are clamoring to go back to work and for many social distancing coupled with good hygiene and good Therapeutics is enough. Then a vaccine will free us totally.
