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    That's why this gets interesting E; are they actually trying to do the right thing or insulate the contractor from being bounced?
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    Hate to sound like a conspiracy theory freak, but do you think all these spam threads are being started by the ROC, Maricopa County Planning or SCHOA?

    Too funny
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    Today should be interesting. I expect to hear from SCHOA and the timing is perfect. Got a call yesterday from a couple who had hired Tru Builder and had exactly the same experience i did with them. Difference being they are contractors and watched in total disbelief as they tried to fake their way through the remodel. They got some relief in their final bill when SCHOA intervened, but it was hardly an experience anyone living in Sun City should have to go through.
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    Have you considered a write-up on Yelp? Tru builders only has 3 and mostly positive. People should be made aware. That's one thing I don't like about the SCHOA referral...no way to check actual people's experiences. I understand if they don't want to monitor a site for that, but it helps to hear real people's responses. I always check Yelp. And yes I know it's not perfect. They claim no one can pay for good reviews but they do have a way of manipulating. I've heard they ask for money from vendors and if they don't get it they threaten to take down all the reviews. Still I always read Yelp and if they have enough good reviews it's helpful. And the bad reviews are a warning, though also not always helpful if only a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynthia View Post
    Have you considered a write-up on Yelp? Tru builders only has 3 and mostly positive. People should be made aware. That's one thing I don't like about the SCHOA referral...no way to check actual people's experiences. I understand if they don't want to monitor a site for that, but it helps to hear real people's responses. I always check Yelp. And yes I know it's not perfect. They claim no one can pay for good reviews but they do have a way of manipulating. I've heard they ask for money from vendors and if they don't get it they threaten to take down all the reviews. Still I always read Yelp and if they have enough good reviews it's helpful. And the bad reviews are a warning, though also not always helpful if only a few.

    I have and I will. Just waiting for SCHOA to take some action. Tru Builders sent us an email on the social platforms they want us to post positive comments on, including links. I know it's not much, but negatives are always something they hate. Too bad they don't hate them enough to try and do a good job.
    Sun City=Community before corporation, people before politics.

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    Clearly the ROC and Maricopa County Planning have washed their hands of their ineptness. Guess when you are a bureaucrat, you don't answer to anyone or have any sense of doing your job right. That's just plain tragic.

    Good news is i am meeting with a couple this afternoon who had hired Tru Builders and going to chat about the crap they went through with them. Interesting thing is they are contractors themselves and watched in horror as Tru Builder screwed things up every step of the way.
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    I see we have more of the stupid going on with the spam. Too bad isn't it?
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    Interesting meeting yesterday with a couple that hired Tru Builder back in 2015. Horrible experience for them as well. Months behind with delays, shoddy work, workers not showing and non-existent communication. All the same crap we experienced with them. The difference is when they complained to SCHOA, one of the compliance guys told them not to file a complaint, he would get TB to refund the up charges he had shoved at them.

    They told me of another TB incident with a neighbor, but i will hold off till i get more details.

    SCHOA has been in touch with me and said all of this takes time. Okay, i have time. It's just frustrating to look out my window and see the Tru Builder sign in front of a house they completed 5 weeks ago. Another one of Max's favorite games, get signs up fast and leave them there as long as possible. Back in the day, when i was at SCHOA, they were supposed to come down when the project was done.

    Ultimately TB cost us about $5000, no small number, and that's to say nothing of the two months we lost. Funny thing is, at this point, it isn't even the money. They have no business on the SCHOA vendor list. But that's just my humble opinion eh?
    Sun City=Community before corporation, people before politics.

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    In this case it's not just your humble opinion, it's your experience with the vendor. Very different.

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    I miss the old days (70s) with less surveillance where you could just sneak up to a sign while walking your dog at night and write the word "SUCKS" in big letters underneath the name.

    Speaking of compliance, how about that house on Mead that still has the Trump/Pence signs in the front?

    Things that make ya go hmmm....
    Last edited by Emily Litella; 10-11-2017 at 07:25 PM.

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